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GAME OF THRONES with Torin Dorn

Taylor D. Adams Season 4 Episode 5

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What if the epic tales of Game of Thrones held the key to navigating life's unexpected twists and turns? This question takes center stage in our latest conversation with speaker, coach, and founder of Speak Victory, Torin Dorn. As we dissect the concept of underdog journeys, Torin draws parallels between his personal journey and the narratives of beloved characters like John Snow and Arya Stark. From being overlooked in high school, similar to Jon Snow, to achieving his dream of playing in the ACC, Torin’s story is as captivating as any Game of Thrones plotline.

In the second part of our chat, we delve into what makes Game of Thrones more than just a TV show for Torin. It's a catalyst for motivation, a source of inspiration, and a mirror to life's unpredictability. Torin shares with us the series' pivotal moments that left him hooked: Bran's fall from the window, the controversial finale, and his favorite sequences. Moreover, he takes us through the importance of keeping a physical record of goals, as it serves as a constant reminder of what we strive for.

Lastly, we turn the conversation to Torin's own professional basketball journey and how he has managed to stay steps ahead in this highly competitive field. Torin’s insights on learning from industry leaders and the importance of authenticity and pure intentions are sure to inspire. Drawing lessons from Game of Thrones, Torin emphasizes the value of having a purpose beyond power and money. Tune in to hear Torin's inspirational story - it might just make you see Game of Thrones, and life, in a whole new light.

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

NAD 10 is too young to say such things.

Speaker 1:

He won't be a boy forever, and winter is coming.

Speaker 2:

Watching Game of Thrones will teach you a lot about life, like just from the inner dealings that people have, the agendas that people may try to play, the people who try to stay out of the fray, and it is so lifelike in a medieval setting. I guarantee if you watch it, anyone you'll find someone that mirrors your life or a journey that you went through in your life or someone that you know.

Speaker 1:

Hi, I'm Taylor and welcome back to the Film Nuts podcast, a show about why we love what we watch. How do you go about getting what you want? Hard work, brute force, kindness, dragons, mythical creatures aside, is there a right or wrong way to achieve your goals or take what you feel like you deserve? How do we decide which methods are best when it comes to winning, and do we treat our lives like a game to be won or lost? These questions are some of the core concepts centering HBO's Game of Thrones From 2011 to 2019,.

Speaker 1:

The show left a huge impact in pop culture and enraptured so many people with its epic storytelling and its escapist fantasy. Now, full disclosure. Of the 73 episodes of Game of Thrones, I have only seen five of them, so I can't, in good conscience, sit here and pretend to be an expert on everything that goes on in Westeros. Luckily, this show is not about me being an expert in anything, but for my guests today, game of Thrones illustrated the many ways life can throw the unexpected in our way. Torn Dorn is a speaker, coach and founder of Speak Victory, a motivational platform catered toward anybody who's struggling with the day to day. Torn considers the underdog stories and the life allegories, the biggest attractions for Game of Thrones. Torn and I chat about the twists and turns of the iconic HBO series, the transition from college to professional basketball, overseas, and how to live a life of purpose. So be prepared. Winter is coming. Here's Torn Dorn talking about Game of Thrones on the Film Nuts podcast. How are you? How are you doing, man? What's new in your life?

Speaker 2:

I'm good, I'm good. Everything's new, everything's new kind of in the transitional phase of life. So I'm good. Yeah, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good.

Speaker 1:

Nice. So how are you enjoying being on the coaching side of things?

Speaker 2:

I love it. I love it. It's been a wild ride, a journey and an eye-opening experience, but I love it. I kind of fell in love with being on this side of the ball.

Speaker 1:

Do you look back and think about your playing career now from a different perspective, now that you're a coach?

Speaker 2:

I do, I do. I always kind of use this analogy of like being on a chessboard. I don't know if you play chess, but I kind of use the analogy that when you're a player, you're a piece on the board. So some players are knights, some players are rooks, some players are king, queen, pawn, you know, and so on. When you're a coach, you're outside of the board controlling what's going on or trying to manipulate the pieces to work out in your favor. Sometimes you got to make different moves to set the other team up to do different moves, so it's a whole different level of gameplay mentally.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, I completely understand that, and that shift in perspective can lead you to come up with new ideas and stuff like that. That's awesome. So tell me about Speak Victory. How did it come about Give me the elevator pitch about what it is all that?

Speaker 2:

So Speak. Victory basically for me was a journal that I kept when I first went overseas. I was lonely, first time moving out of North Carolina and I'm just so having to move to Poland and new culture, new environment, not many people that spoke English, so I was just kind of alone, alone, lost, trying to find my way. So I started journaling, writing every night, every morning, and then I don't know, that was in August, maybe by Christmas time I said you know what, the stuff that was helping me get through, the quotes that I was coming across, the things that I was writing to help somebody else.

Speaker 2:

So I made an Instagram page and just started publishing my quotes out of my journal and then it just kind of evolved into me speaking and doing some voiceover work, and then doing voiceover work for other companies and then speaking in front of crowds and trying to motivate people and kids, and it just kind of taken a life of its own now. So that was kind of how it started. I never, never, thought it would get here, but it's here now. So we kind of riding away.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's awesome and that's really cool. Yeah, I've enjoyed seeing the post and following all the inspirational stuff you have going on. Yeah, I'll just be scrolling, like having a weird day and I'm scrolling and then that stuff comes up and I'm like, okay, a little bit of a you know air floating me up. Yeah, it's kind of nice. All right, so why did you want to talk about Game of Thrones?

Speaker 2:

Well, for one, it's probably my favorite, my favorite TV show that I've watched over the last 35 years. I'm not a big TV guy Like I don't watch too much TV, like I don't. I don't really have time to get into a lot of shows but that was one of the shows when I had time, like during when I was overseas, that was probably my favorite show that I watched throughout that time. So it was kind of a no brainer when you asked for a TV show or a movie. So let's go, game of Thrones.

Speaker 1:

So so you started watching it when you were over in Poland.

Speaker 2:

I think I started right before I left and finished when I got out there. I was late to okay, I was late to the party and it had already aired by the time I started.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, that's kind of a cool. You took it with you Because it was almost like something that connected you back to your old world. So why? Why is it something that is a favorite of yours, like what about? It really spoke to you or appealed to you or at least entertained you?

Speaker 2:

Well, for me it was well. First of all, I really was wrong. Everybody talked about it all through college. Everybody's like oh, game of Thrones, game of Thrones. But like I just never pulled the trigger on it and everyone would always tell me like I was running and people are like, oh, your house door and house door. And I was like what does that even mean? I have no clue what that means. And I started watching or something like I was looking for a show and that just kept popping in my head like oh, your house door and Game of Thrones. So I picked it and after like two, three episodes I was hooked.

Speaker 2:

Was it really the storylines they got me and the themes and the lessons learned throughout it? You know, my dream job before I ended up being a basketball player and coach was to be a filmmaker. That was my first dream job. When I was a kid, I used to do videos and all types of editing and cinema. So I always looked for like how would I have shot this? How would I have told that story? What within the story is a theme that ties to something else, and Game of Thrones had had that so many different storylines within it. It was kept on the edge of your seat and there were so many plot twists where you fall in love with one character and then they kill the character off for you. You think it's going to go this way and it goes the other way. So I was kind of that's what kind of drew me to it.

Speaker 1:

You mentioned kind of the themes that were portrayed in the show. What kind of themes that were portrayed you really like connected with or identified or at least admired how they came across.

Speaker 2:

So one of the underdog story for one like no like John Snow story.

Speaker 1:

Would you have been it? I've executed men who disobeyed me. You've also spared men Thousands of wildlings when they refused to nail. I wasn't a king, but you were. You've always been. I gave up my crown, sam. I bent the knee. I'm not king in the north anymore. I'm not talking about the king in the north. I'm talking about the king of the bloody seven kingdoms.

Speaker 2:

From going from the bastard child to the heir to the iron throne like that was so epic for me because I feel like I a lot of that. I resonate with the underdog story and then even the Arya Stark Journey, from her being the person who had to save everybody. Everybody doubted her and then she goes and figures out what it means to be no one, and that theme of being no one Kind of resonated with me too. You told her to kill me? Yes, but here you are and there she is.

Speaker 1:

Finally, a girl is Noah, a Girl is Arya Stark of Winterfell, and I'm going home.

Speaker 2:

That's life like. That's what life is like we all think that we're, we have such a Incredible presence in our small world but in reality like we're all just running around in shells. And I kind of learned that going to Poland because when I was in school I thought that you know, this is the world like, interstate is life. You know once you're, when you're there, your people know you, you're playing on TV, so you think this is what life is and you move to a whole nother place and nobody knows who you are, nobody even speaks English. And then you're like oh wow, these people have lost completely independent of they never heard of in some state, let alone Seeing a game or care about basketball or anything like that. So you kind of get a different perspective on life and I think that's what resonated with me through the Arya Stark story Becoming nobody. So those two are probably the biggest two, I think, for me.

Speaker 1:

Hmm, I got you, so what about tell me about your underdog journey then?

Speaker 2:

Like I wasn't a highly recruited guy, like NC State didn't even didn't offer me coming out of high school. I was a Mid major guy, you know, went to Charlotte first and I only had three. I had three, three schools I chose from, with Charlotte, ncw and Appalachian State, which neither one of those are huge basketball schools. You know I always dreamed of playing in the HCC. You know my parents were the Carolina so that was always a thing like just seeing that type, that level of Sport was what I wanted.

Speaker 2:

So I didn't get that out of high school and I always felt like I was overlooked, counted out, doubted and just worked and worked and worked and eventually, in a in a non-conventional way, ended up getting to the place that I wanted to go. You know, having to believe in myself through the doubt, through the struggle, through this trials, and come out on the other end still getting what I wanted to get in the first place, but just had to go about it in a roundabout way. So that was kind of that's kind of the synopsis of my story of being an underdog, you know. So that's pretty that in sport that was pretty much pretty much it. And then going to the pros wanting to go to NBA, getting that, getting to summer league with the Hornets and not feeling like I got an opportunity that I wanted and getting hurt and then pivoting to it like it's just so much you know that goes into that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, where I mean during, During the process of you wanting to get to an ACC school or at least a big platform kind of school, like mentally, how did you handle that? Like were you always positive about stuff? Did you get down and all like what was? Did you fluctuate? What was that like?

Speaker 2:

oh for sure you know I miss my mentality now and the things that I think that I'm teaching people is how to overcome adversity through different ways. That I figured out how to overcome adversity. It wasn't that I was always just positive and had a great outlook on my situations. Every time they happen to me, you know I would get down, I would get sad, I would cry, I would hurt, I was angry, I took things out on people that I shouldn't know, because of things that happen to me in different situations, and that's why I feel so passionately about speaking on it, because I've been through it. I've been there and I know how someone may feel that's being overlooked or that's going through a tragedy or that's going through wanting something, having a dream, and it not coming true the way they wanted it. So I definitely wasn't always positive.

Speaker 2:

My parents did a good job for keeping me positive and keeping me just aware of the work that it takes to get to a certain place. So I think I had a good foundation for sure, and my mom kind of was always a speak life into you type of person and you can do anything you put your mind to type of person. So that kind of rubbed off and I had some great coaches as well. That kind of taught me things and that's kind of where it came from. It wasn't that I was not, that I was always positive, or just I call it like delusionally optimistic. Yeah, I got think I am very, very optimistic, but I'm not afraid to like go through the mud and go through the pain and hurt that comes with achievement so sorry for the interruption, but I will be brief.

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Speaker 1:

Okay, enough of me rambling back to the good stuff. So you talked a little bit about you before you got into basketball. You wanted to be a filmmaker, so, and you're you're making stuff, you're making, you're making, you're making content man, you're making videos. So you've got the eye for it. Where do you think? Where did that? Do you know where that came from? Or like, what drew you in to wanting to make stuff?

Speaker 2:

so it started with like sports highlights and film I would make. Like when I was a freshman in high school I would make highlight tapes for the same guys before they would go to college, like I think ball is life and like group mix tape and all the highlight platforms have just started, yeah, and I started making highlights for people and even like my teammate my junior year at state of our backs, like I made his first highlight tape when he's in like sixth grade because, he played on the same team as my little cousin.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, just seeing it from a sports perspective and then learning to tell stories through that, like telling different stories with your camera, telling different stories with angles, with mood, with tone. And I entered into, like video editing competitions in engineering. I took, like engineering, I was an engineering academy in high school and I would always do like the video production stuff and me and this guy went to high school we would put our enter. It was always a competition each year where you make a film going towards a certain theme or pertaining to a certain theme and you entered into this competition I think the first one we ended up winning when I was in high school and they kind of just sparked like oh wow, this is really, really cool. Like I love to tell story from different angles and different it just in different ways and unique parts of the story from a director's perspective yeah.

Speaker 1:

So what? You said that Game of Thrones, you got hooked like first couple episodes. What in the? I'm gonna admit I am probably one of the few people on the planet that hasn't seen this show. I mean, okay, I've seen before. You and I agreed to do Game of Thrones. I had seen four total episodes. I saw the first three and then I ended up seeing the red-winning episode because my roommate was watching it.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah and then, after we talked, I rewatched the first three and then I watched the finale just to see how things end. Yeah, so within the, I just couldn't get into. I think it's just me. It's just I must be the crazy person, because everybody in the world that watched the show and loved it. So what? In those first two, three episodes, what got you really hooked into being invested?

Speaker 2:

Billy all right, I'm in was there like a moment that got me, because I think the first three episodes were still kind of slow. I'm just into that type of stuff, like I'm into like Greek mythology, like history, like history, with my favorite subject growing up, so that whole thing was it gave me those vibes like this is very that Greek mythology, ancient, with the white Walker's dragons, like I love that type of stuff. So I think it was just that. And then when they pushed I want to say is when they pushed Bran out of the brand car, out of the window.

Speaker 2:

I don't know yeah, they pushed him out of the window. It's all right. It's all right, it's all right. He saw us. I heard you the first time quite the little climb, aren't you? How old are you boy? 10, 10 things I do for love when he pushed him out the window, I was like, oh yeah, I'm here, I'm here for this.

Speaker 1:

I gotta see where it is go. So it was like it was like the twist, like the unexpected ending that you were like, oh, this can happen in the show, was that?

Speaker 2:

yeah, like it. Yeah, like this is no no-holds bar, like we're going for it in this, so I love that intro that's cool.

Speaker 1:

So I mentioned earlier that I watched the first, like three, and then I've seen the finale. But I know how things go because you know, my friends watch it. Everything is out there and on the internet about how everything goes. What is your opinion on how the show ended, because that seems to be a topic of Debate about if people enjoyed it or if they didn't enjoy how the show ended in its last season.

Speaker 2:

I Think you kind of just ended. It ended okay. I think it could have been more of an epic ending or more complete, but I also feel like there were some Other factors that played into that. Like I don't know if they were planning for a spin-off or play or they planned for that to be the end, like I don't know that. So when I look at it from a director's perspective, I have to think about those things.

Speaker 2:

However, you know what I had liked to see it be more comprehensive at the end and more like okay, this is how we close it, and it's more epic or Twist that we didn't see coming, because it was twisting turns about the whole thing, and I feel like the ending was kind of a little predictable and it was kind of anti-climactic. I Would have probably wanted to see a little more from there, but I wasn't too bad. I was so invested, like I was so high on it. Like you, give me seven good seasons of anything like I'm I. It's a great show, regardless of how it is to me, for me, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's tough to put together seven eight Seasons of a show that scale Exactly so, with all those eight seasons, what do you have? A favorite moment or a favorite scene, or something like that?

Speaker 2:

true, my favorite, definitely my favorite two characters. So I loved when I aria, when she ends up being the one to kill the, the white Walker, and when she and then when she avenges her brothers red wedding, like those are my two favorite my favorite character and those are my two favorite moments of her journey from being a Super underdog story and then being able to be the one that saves everybody from the white Walmart and then be and also being One to avenge her brother Rob's death from the red wedding. Where did that without? Was super big for me and think she learned along the way they weren't easy to carve.

Speaker 2:

Especially black Waldo.

Speaker 1:

My name is Arya Stark. I want you to know that the last thing you're ever going to see is a Starks mining down at you as you die. I.

Speaker 2:

Don't know. She's a huge assassin. I love that. I mean she, she kept a she kept like a kill list of all the people that she was gonna kill and she were versited every night like she would say it over.

Speaker 2:

And there is every single night, every single night, and that's something that I did when I was a player, but not to not to that extent where I would say in my head every night, but I definitely had a list of people that I was working to be like in high school guys or ranked ahead of me. I had them down on the list like things that were said like at his coach when I was a sophomore tell me that there was no ACC or Biggie stars in the gym. And I was in the gym and I went home and wrote it down and I still have it at home now. I went home and wrote it down and dated it. So when I ended up Getting today to see like I could pull it back out and say, yeah, like on this date, they said I couldn't and I did like that I had some of what she had In my own avenue, in my own area, so that that's probably my favorite thing.

Speaker 1:

Do you, do you think doing doing a thing like that, where you're like keeping a Physical record or something, do you feel like that is a good motivational tool for people?

Speaker 2:

I Think so for sure. I mean I Write stuff down like what you want you got to be super clear and super specific on it and write it down. Those are the people that, because it was written down the other way, like somebody published it, that these people are Right, the head of me. So now, not, I'm gonna write it down and I'm gonna go Tracking down Like I think your sport is essential and in anything like if you want to be at the top of any industry, like you have to have a competitive street businessmen, people that are really good in business, they're not there because they're soft.

Speaker 2:

Like people, these, these companies don't monopolize industries because they care about equality and like Freedom of business for everybody. Like no, they want to be the best. Like I'm gonna, I'm gonna buy you, I'm gonna, I'm, you can be under me, you can be with part of my company, I'm Amazon, I'm Amazon, I'll buy your company and you can be part of Amazon. But you can't be in my industry and making noise without me Coming to like see about it and that's kind of how you have to be after, like to be super duper, successfully competitive industries now. So with sports, like yeah, I feel like that was. That was essential and it kept me working, kept me. You gave me something to restrive for. It kept me With a little bit of healthy paranoia like all these people could be working. No, I gotta go back to the gym and get it again. I gotta do extra rep.

Speaker 1:

I appreciate that perspective, but is there a point where you Ever thought to yourself I just have, I just have to be better than I was like yesterday? Is that also a part, or is that kind of a different school of thought? I?

Speaker 2:

I think, personally, they go hand in hand, right, because if I'm gonna catch these people, I have to continue to get better than I was yesterday. You know what I mean? Like I don't necessarily, and I think that became a maturation. When I was young, I think I put a lot of stock into being better than others, you know, and now I feel like I put more stock into being better than I was yesterday and that's a struggle. Now it's not.

Speaker 2:

This is not something that I'm just great at, like I still sometimes peek to the right, peek to the left and see people and I'm like, ah, let me chill, let me put my blinders back on and look right down the line where I'm going. But it's hard. Now it's because we're human. It's hard not to look to your right or your left because we have peripheral vision and we can see people doing different things. But it's a process to try as hard as you can and work at it every day.

Speaker 2:

And that's why you have a routine get up, don't get on your phone, you meditate, you read whatever, each person, whatever you do to center yourself and keep yourself on this path. You do that to try to block out all the noise, but the noise is still there and you still hear it sometimes. So I think it's for me, I try to marry the two, like I try to hear the noise and accept the noise as noise, but then find peace within that storm, like that's the storm, okay, I'll find peace in the rain, like I'll be in the rain and be peaceful. Nothing wrong with the little water, you know, some people oh storming outside, I'll stay in the house like nah, I'll run out in the rain and be cool with it, like let's do it, let's do it, let's tango. So I think it's definitely a dance that you gotta learn.

Speaker 1:

So what are you? What are you coaching to your players at this point, With all the thoughts we've talked about right now, like what's a key message you're being given to your guys every day?

Speaker 2:

I would say honestly the same thing that we just said, like. So, for example, if you got a team full of players and it's only five players can play at a time, but it's 13 guys that wanna play, you can say, okay, yeah, I got to be better than I was yesterday. But at the same time, I gotta know my competition and know what I'm up against and know what he likes to do. So when I have to match up against him, that's the thing you gotta be better than you were yesterday. But you also have to line up against someone else in a competitive sport. So I can't just turn a blind eye to what everybody else is doing.

Speaker 2:

I gotta say what's his move, what's his favorite move? Let me watch him, let me study him so I can beat him. Now, let me study him so I can be envy. Let me study him so I can beat him. So that's kind of the message I feel like I've been given. The most is like, yeah, let's work to get better than we were yesterday, let's be the best version of ourselves, but also let's study the competition, let's study the people that we're going against so we're better prepared to face them when we have to go to battle against them.

Speaker 1:

Do you still have names or quotes on your list and, if so, are you? How active are you in conquering those?

Speaker 2:

No, I don't necessarily have names that I'm trying to like conquer. I would say I have names of, I have an idea of people who I strive to be like and I wanna compete with those people. Like, at the end of the day, this is what I learned through doing that and like when I was young it was like I wanna beat this person. But when I got older I learned that, like, my story is not the same as their story, like who knows what their story holds for them and who knows what mine holds for me. But there are people that I strive to be a little like like okay, so if you're the best, like, let's say, I'm a speaker, I wanna be the best at everything I do. So if I'm speaking, I wanna be like Eric Thomas and Enki Johnson, those people who are at the top of that industry. And then once you get up there, it's not necessarily as much of a competition, it's more so like, okay, you have an audience, I have an audience like how can we best impact people at this level? But I wanna be able to impact people on that scale, like they are. So you kinda study them and say, okay, what are they doing? That got them there. How can I implement some of that with how I do it, how I speak?

Speaker 2:

I speak a little different, like we all. Everybody has a different style. So how can I implement some of the tactics they use within my style to get me to that level, to where I'm having that type of impact? So it's kinda comparison on that level, as opposed to comparing to like try to beat them or take them over now in my life, or even coaching, like who's the best coach that I know and how do I take a little bit from him and be able to get to that level, to where now I can eventually compete with that person and see who can win that chess game. Like I wanna play in the arenas with the best people, I wanna box with the best competition in the world. So yeah, I gotta look at who's the best and try to chase them down, try to get a little closer to them so that eventually they'll speak about you in the same breath as they speak about those people I see.

Speaker 1:

So if people are have been living under a rock, like I have, and you try to convince someone to watch Game of Thrones, what would you? How would you describe the show? What would be your pitch?

Speaker 2:

Actually one of my mentors actually said and it stuck with me Game of Thrones is a lot like life. So if you wanna see, if you love life and the inner workings of like anything, watching Game of Thrones will teach you a lot about life, like just from the inner dealings that people have, the agendas that people may try to play, the people who try to stay out of the fray, and it's so lifelike in a medieval setting, all of the all of the stuff that happens. You can probably look at a situation in your workplace and your family and your business with your friends that mirrors a situation like a mirrors a situation that happens in Game of Thrones, just like my situation with sport. I can directly mirror a character in Game of Thrones, like guarantee. If you watch it anyone you'll find someone that mirrors your life or a journey that you went through in your life or someone that you know. It's very, very relatable.

Speaker 1:

You talked a little bit earlier about appreciating the underdog stories in it, so, going off of that, what have you learned? What did you learn watching the show? Did you learn anything from about life?

Speaker 2:

I would say expected unexpected. Try to stay 15 steps ahead. They say chestmaster, stay 15 steps ahead of the game. Try to stay 15 steps ahead. Game of thrones. They'll be twisting turns and little caveats that you don't see coming. But try as much as you can maybe predict them, so maybe you can have a leg up on the people that you're going to get or the people that you're around. You just never know what's going to happen.

Speaker 2:

That's kind of the thing for the game of thrones Don't let power control you. Like when your intentions are pure. Like John Snow had pure intentions and he ended up winning in the end Versus all the people who didn't have pure intentions and you thought they were going to win but then they didn't. But the person with the most pure intentions and that really wanted to help people and do that at the best way he knew how and was extremely genuine, ended up being the heir to the iron throne, ended up being the king. So that's the type of stuff that like don't forget to be genuine and be pure with your intentions and chase a purpose versus chasing power, greed money. Everybody in the show that chased power, greedy money ended up losing to this guy who just had pure intentions, and they all overlooked him and said he was a bastard child. He ended up being the king.

Speaker 1:

That's really good. Okay, the last thing I'm going to have you do. I need a torondorn motivational speech. If I'm having a bad day, I want to remember something that you've told me right now Like I want to feel, like I can. You don't have to like, you don't have to run through, make me run through a brick wall. Give me some little positive affirmations.

Speaker 2:

No, I give you some positive. So actually I'll give you, I'll give you a story that that I gave. Not too long ago, so maybe two months ago, almost now I lost my mom and she had a long I appreciate it. She had a long battle with colon cancer, right, and my mom is the type of person who, for her whole life, just did good, just for sake of doing good, like she. She, she took my brother's phone for three months because he put lemonade in a water cup at Chipotle, like everybody, yeah, yeah, oh, pissed, pissed, pissed off. And we're both like yo, what? Because I was going to do the same thing until he did it and got in trouble and she lost her mind. I was like I was really about to do the same thing. So I'm just like, wow, you went first, but but it was just for sake of doing good, like that was the type of person she was, and she got stage four colon cancer with no symptoms a month before, right, so, like August 2020, she's running around perfectly fine, going to the grocery store, cooking this COVID, so we're just chilling at the house. She's basically the only one leaving, going to the grocery store, coming back and September starts feeling sick, just diagnosed.

Speaker 2:

They gave her six, six weeks to six months to live and had already metastasized to the liver Unreal diagnosis. Doctors were confused how have you, how did you get this far along with no symptoms? We're all confused. You know the whole nine. So she battles, and battles, and battles, and for two years, two and a half years, she battles. So she outlived her diagnosis by two years, right, and me personally.

Speaker 2:

It was super tough to watch, but the thing that I learned from it was nobody's in life in a race to see who can live the most days. We're in life in a race to see who can be the most impactful with the days that they have. Like, her life was centered around doing good just for the sake of doing good, and even on her way out she showed that and did that at the highest level, every single day, when she had, with the energy she had, she was shining a light on to other people, even though she was facing the most adverse situation humanly possible. You know dealing with your own morbidity.

Speaker 2:

So my message to anyone who's listening, my message to you, is to live a life of impact like, find purpose, know what that is and be impactful, because when you go, the only thing people are going to remember is how you make them feel, not what you, not what you acquire, not the car you drove, not the mansion that you bought none of it. All that's going to go. All that's going to be sold it's going to be, it's going to go to probate Like. The only thing people are going to remember is how you made them feel and the energy that you pass into the world, because this body is just a shell that we walk in, but the energy never dies. So keep your vibes, keep your energy right and shine a light on somebody else, because it'll live forever.

Speaker 1:

I appreciate that. Closing message. Man, that was great, no problem. Yeah, thank you for coming on to talk about Game of Thrones and life, apparently.

Speaker 2:

No problem, no problem.

Speaker 1:

A major idea that modern media are asking us to ponder is what motivates us. What is our why? We see some accounts on Instagram or LinkedIn telling us we can make six figures with this one simple hack. Then we see a video on something like TikTok that's preaching minimalism and happiness and kind of how they're connected. We get pulled in all these directions, so it's really difficult for us to really figure out what is the best path for us individually.

Speaker 1:

For me, I'm very much in line with what Torn is talking about Effect those around you positively as best as you can while you're still able. But what about you? Do you have a motivating philosophy in your life? I would honestly love to know. So reach out on TikTok, instagram and Twitter, at Film Nuts Podcast or be sure to check out Discord link to the Nut House in the show notes. A huge thanks to Torn for coming on the show and a thanks the size of many dragons to you for listening. Please check out the show notes for links to Torn's platform. Speak Victory for your daily motivation.

Speaker 1:

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